Ex-Trad-Ition
Everybody's favourite Lebanese-Muslim spokesman, Keysar Trad lost a 2009 court case against radio broadcaster Alan Jones, who made some fairly pointed comments about Muslims. After losing, Trad appealed.
Last month the appeal panel ruled against him again.
Were there ever any protests from the Islamic Community against Jihad? Against terrorism? Against any of the other problems within the religion? Not that I'm aware of.
Whereas if Israel bombs a few armed terrorists, you can have ten thousand Muslims marching in the streets on a day's notice. So we know they can get a crowd together when it suits them.
Of course, I'll probably get called a "racist" for saying any of this.
Last month the appeal panel ruled against him again.
For those reasons Mr Trad's appeal would ultimately fail. It would not be necessary to consider the factual questions concerning incitement.I was also surprised by this bit:
37 Of particular potential significance here is this material pointed to by Mr Trad's experts:Really? Could it not be because of the Lebanese-Muslim community's almost complete silence in the face of a nearly total failure to assimilate into the Australian Community? Rather than saying "we have a problem, what can we do about it?" it's been constant moaning that it's "racism", like a violent, rude child saying it's everybody else's fault that they're unpopular at school.
Muslims in Australia gained an image of being problem migrants largely through the particular settlement experience of Lebanese Muslim migrants settled in Sydney as a result of the civil war [in Lebanon]. In particular this image was created and sustained by the fact that Lebanese Muslims experienced chronically high levels of unemployment in the 1980's and the 1990's, by the perception that Lebanese youth were heavily involved in gang activities and by the conviction of Lebanese Muslim brothers for gang rapes in Sydney.
Were there ever any protests from the Islamic Community against Jihad? Against terrorism? Against any of the other problems within the religion? Not that I'm aware of.
Whereas if Israel bombs a few armed terrorists, you can have ten thousand Muslims marching in the streets on a day's notice. So we know they can get a crowd together when it suits them.
Of course, I'll probably get called a "racist" for saying any of this.
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posted by Dan at 7:55 PM |
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Of course, I'll probably get called a "racist" for saying any of this.
I don't think there's any need.
Of course there is no need since there is no reason to to do so. But there are so many sanctimonious types out there these days just looking for an opportunity to demonstrate their more-PC-than-thou moral goodness by denouncing those who transgress the new morality.
"I don't think there's any need"
about the only truthful comment you've made on this blog 'John' and glad you agree. There's no need to call someone names for speaking the plain truth to anyone with a functional cerebrum.
Which in hindsight probably disqualifies you 'John'.
Never mind. Keep plugging on, at least it keeps you off the streets.
There was a great bit of script in Team America which is now a 'deleted scene'.
It refers to Kim Jong Il.
Spottswoode: "Team, this is all my fault. I was overzealous in Cairo. I let racism cloud my judgment. I was so sure the ultimate terrorist was Middle Eastern, but I didn't realize he was a goddamn Gook. I'll never be a racist again. "
There's no need to call someone names for speaking the plain truth to anyone with a functional cerebrum.
'Racist' isn't a name, it's an adjective that describes someone's motives and behaviour at a particular time. Usually someone who criticises or condemns a group based on racial stereotyping or generalisations.
I am old enough to remember the 1970 and early 1980s when we heard very similar arguments about Asian immigrants, i.e. they don't assimilate, they form gangs and ghettos, they're infiltrated by ex-VC commie terrorists, blah blah blah. Those views have been consigned to the ashcan of history, as Lieutenant Dan's will eventually be.
Of course by then you lot will have moved on to another target group. You'll all be sitting down at your local pub or RSL, scratching your shriveled nadgems and moaning about how the Asians/Muslims/whoever have ruined your glorious country. Sad, pathetic whingers rarely change.
speaking of imagined stereotypes 'John' that diatribe was just a perfect example. Of the leftist spores festering inside your ideologically driven head as opposed to reality. What a pompous little mung bean with an overblown ego to come up with this recycled sneering fantasy from a 70's Aussie sitcom.
you are an idiot. If you really are that old, which I severely doubt, you must have learnt bugger all in your loser's life.
Nice work with that cover story though. What about the Kingswood?
Here's some capitals for you. YOU ARE CLEARLY A MORON.
'John's flatus', I actually lived through the 1970s - I don't perceive it through a ridiculous sitcom. It says much about your life and your dwarfish intellect that you think in such terms.
In fact, during the 1970s I was at university. One of the most fulfilling ways of passing the time was to drag obnoxious, careening Young Liberal two-pot screamers out of the Student Union, give them a good belting and send them back to the halls. You remind me a lot of them, and I expect you would benefit from similar handling.
"One of the most fulfilling ways of passing the time was to drag obnoxious, careening Young Liberal two-pot screamers out of the Student Union, give them a good belting"
So in fact by admission you spent your uni years as part of a group of violent left wing thugs looking for a reason to feel better about yourself through gang violence?
Nice.
Myself when confronted by a drunk tool (such as yourself in your heyday) simply ignore them where possible or find somewhere better to enjoy myself.
I can just imagine you and a large number of likeminded goons looking for single victims like hyenas. As you have just described yourself. What is it with lefties and cowardice?
I think you just revealed the essence of yourself right there.
What a brave little peanut. And you still think it worth bragging about. Sad allegedly old man.
pathetic wanker.
Send them back to the halls? WTF was this guy in a Monty Python skit or a villain in a Harry Potter movie? ha ha ha. Send them back to the halls. Please sir may I have more? More?????
So in fact by admission you spent your uni years as part of a group of violent left wing thugs looking for a reason to feel better about yourself through gang violence?
On the contrary, we much preferred debate and argument to fist fights. But the right-wing of student politics at Sydney University in the mid-1970s was notoriously childish (I think Whitlam in power drove them all a bit silly). They couldn't stage a reasoned argument to save themselves; all they could muster was silly insults and jibes, much like your friend 'Flatus' here.
There was one exception: the current federal Liberal leader, who was the 'hit man' for USyd's right-wing students. Abbott gave as good as he got with his fists, and he could match wits with the Left. I actually liked him back then, even though he was an ardent Bible-chomper.
Send them back to the halls? WTF was this guy in a Monty Python skit or a villain in a Harry Potter movie? ha ha ha. Send them back to the halls. Please sir may I have more? More?????
The halls of residence, you buffoon. It's where students live on campus. You've just exposed yourself as never having been near a university, let alone studied at one. From now on I dub thee 'Uneducated Flatus'.
"we much preferred debate and argument to fist fights"
but then;
"give them a good belting and send them back to the halls"
I'm guessing John the only debate you ever engaged in was mass -debating. I'm fairly sure you've kept that up ever since.
Just for info knob I lived in a unit,working, whilst in Uni, not 'the halls' no doubt with your parents picking up your bills while you sneered at them. Pity tosspots like you got your irrelevant attempt at education for free, and clearly by your drivel, a waste of taxpayers money.
What size brown cardigan do you wear snotty? In your high powered life of trolling?
ROFL
I'm guessing John the only debate you ever engaged in was mass -debating. I'm fairly sure you've kept that up ever since.
Masturbation is becoming a common theme in your commentary here, Uneducated Flatus. I wonder why that is?
Just for info knob I lived in a unit,working, whilst in Uni, not 'the halls'
Right, sure you did. And none of the students you shared lectures or tutorials with live in 'the halls', or never mentioned that they did. Or maybe they just never spoke to you (understandably).
I doubt you ever went to uni and now you're lying about it. Not that it matters to me either way, I just find your dishonesty curious.
I'm not revealing anything to you about what I'm wearing. Next thing you'll be asking me for my Skype username or if you can chat to me on webcam. And given your obsession with masturbation, I'm afraid of what might happen.
sure John. actually no one I know speaks like a pompous senior boy from Tomkinson's schooldays, which is the reason I find your rants and ridiculous statements so funny.
No one I know referred to 'the halls' you dickhead because I was born in the 20th century, mix with normal people and I don't make up confected stories about my background.
Unlike yourself, trying to create a fake character.
'the halls'. What an idiot.
Skype? You would be a laugh.
All the best though clown, I'm sure your'e doing your best which is important.
No one I know referred to 'the halls' you dickhead because I was born in the 20th century, mix with normal people and I don't make up confected stories about my background.
No-one you know referred to 'the halls' because no-one you know went to university. I attended two, as have friends, relatives and two of my children, and they all understand what the term 'the halls' refers to, that is, the 'halls of residence'. It has nothing to do with Eton or Tom Brown's Schooldays or any form of pretentious old-world school culture.
Of course you would know this if you had ever set foot on a campus, which I very much doubt.
How nice I attended one, like many, many Australians, and not for free as you allegedly did on the tax dime, so you could pretend to be an elitist.
I asked one of my mates today (with two x degrees) if he knew anyone who referred to 'the halls' when talking about student digs.
He'd heard it, but his opinion was usually anyone using the term for that definition was a pompous wanker. What a surprise.
What was the post about again?
( PS it's Tomkinson's schooldays not Tom Brown. Although you do remind me of Flashman )
OK, 'Uneducated Flatus', here's a search for you: 'uni' + 'the halls' in Australian sites only:
http://tinyurl.com/6s4abjm
308,000 hits.
But no, you know better. Plus you have 'a friend' who backs you up. Sure, sure you do.
Well 'John' try this analogy out.
I could refer to you as a mendacious egocentric narcissist with a personality disorder (which would be correct) or use normal language and simply refer to you as a dickhead.
You see how that works? Pompous idiocy or normal conversation.
Doubtful you would understand but try it out anyway.
here's your link for the day, if wiki isn't too low brow for you;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
I could refer to you as a mendacious egocentric narcissist... or use normal language and simply refer to you as a dickhead. You see how that works? Pompous idiocy or normal conversation.
There is nothing 'normal' about any particular mode of communication. We all speak and write as we are taught. To suggest that a low-brow insult is "normal language" and another is "pompous" exposes you not only as uneducated, but an embittered reverse-snob who thinks you are only "normal" if you speak like someone who wears a blue singlet and works in a factory.
You are a real goose, matey. Every time you open your mouth, your foot is magically drawn within. Please keep commenting, purely for comedy reasons.
By the way, there is no such word as 'medacious'. Perhaps you learned it at the mythical university you attended, where nobody spoke of 'the halls'.
Oh no, it seems you're scouring the comments...for typos...I believe you once had an opinion on that..
heh heh
"who wears a blue singlet and works in a factory"
hmmm, I'm sorry who's a snob? reverse or otherwise? Did your disapproving father wear a blue singlet?
You really are a nasty pompous little man, a perfect advert for contraception.
And unfortunately yes, you are a dickhead.
But if it's the best you can do, we should'nt be too harsh.
I'm sorry who's a snob? reverse or otherwise?
You are. You think that street abuse like 'dickhead' is "normal" while bigger, more formal words are "pompous". In your world, normality is defined by how coarse and low-rent your speech is. Anyone who doesn't resort to common terms of abuse is pompous, pretentious, even elitist.
Did your disapproving father wear a blue singlet?
Actually, he did. He worked long days for decades so that my siblings and I could have an education, and we appreciate him for it. There is nothing wrong with being 'blue collar' or 'white collar'. What matters is how you judge others, and as we've seen, you are sour class-obsessed dildo.
Hi John John! Just re read your post;
"By the way, there is no such word as 'medacious'. Perhaps you learned it at the mythical university"
Well right and wrong little Johnny. I had that word squared away in high school. Where I "learned it" Ha ha!Understandably it's not in your current vocab, which is OK, we're here to help. But for your education...my spelling was correct - as opposed to yours. I'm glad you didn't supposedly pay for an 'education'.
Here's your link for tonight, I suggest you use it on a regular basis. Words can be empowering. Even for dickheads.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mendacious
"if you speak like someone who wears a blue singlet and works in a factory."
and then hastily adds;
"There is nothing wrong with being 'blue collar'"
I seriously believe you may be schizoid - or just stupid which is less dramatic and more likely
Well right and wrong little Johnny.
No, just right. 'Mendacious' is a word; 'medacious', which you had initially typed, is not.
Incidentally, it's amusing how Lieutenant Dan jumped on my back some time ago because I did not use a nick - whereas you, Uneducated Flatus, seem to change nicks every hour. An interesting double standard, that one.
I seriously believe you may be schizoid - or just stupid which is less dramatic and more likely.
So someone who calls you on your pathetic nonsense is (i) mentally unwell or (ii) unintelligent. Again, a resort to base insults and abuse rather than any coherent response.
And show me where I mispelt mendacious, half wit? (eg. the word you didn't understand)....ah yes that's correct, nowhere. Then you proudly announce it's not an actual word, then *you* mispell it in the same post (directly below where you have cut and pasted the correct word from my post ?!) and now you attempt to cover up the fact you have the vocabulary of a dsylexic parrot.
Really, I know you're a bit slow and creating an internet character is difficult for you, but that takes the cake.
Illiterate and thick as a plank. And truly mendacious.
Nice attempt at a back pedal though. I hope you wear small shoes, because to quote you, one of them is firmly in your own mouth.
And show me where I mispelt mendacious, half wit? (eg. the word you didn't understand)....ah yes that's correct, nowhere.
Refer to comment #17 above, made at 3.46pm. Won't you feel like a right dick after you've spotted it, given your latest tirade.
I'd expect an apology from any decent person, but let's face it, I'm not sure you qualify.
Incidentally, it's amusing how Lieutenant Dan jumped on my back some time ago because I did not use a nick - whereas you, Uneducated Flatus, seem to change nicks every hour. An interesting double standard, that one.
I don't care if people use psuedonyms. For all I know, "John" isn't your real name and you're just being consistent. If you read the simple request above the comment box, it simply asks that people don't choose "Anonymous" for the benefit of people wishing to respond to your inanity.
Not really sure what the "double standard" is. Oh, and calling me "Lieutenant Dan" is so cute.
I see now John. Your valiant efforts revealed a header typo. Excellent. Despite your not comprehending the word exists or it's meaning, this is your point of contention.
Nice work. That's an interesting set of standards you operate with.
Standard fare for a dickhead I guess.
PS All the best troll.
I see now John. Your valiant efforts revealed a header typo.
I never said it was a big deal. You're the one who made it such by claiming I'd made it up.
Despite your not comprehending the word exists or it's meaning, this is your point of contention.
I am and have always been well aware of the word 'mendacious' and its meaning. Just because I didn't actually use it doesn't mean I didn't know it. What's more, I'm sure my vocabulary is broader and more compelling than yours, the man who thinks 'dickhead' is "normal language".
Not really sure what the "double standard" is.
Well there isn't one specifically. Except that someone who changes their nick with every post is going to confuse others as much as those who just post anonymously.
Oh, and calling me "Lieutenant Dan" is so cute.
Thank you, I'm glad you like it.
"I am and have always been well aware of the word 'mendacious' and its meaning"
Yes post a frantic google search directly after making a total fool of yourself. Nice job.
"What's more, I'm sure my vocabulary is broader and more compelling than yours"
Really? I suspect that would be a subjective test for a rampant narcissist.
Nil evidence seen here of your assertion.
At least 'Lieutenant Dan' is a step up from the grubby + racist 'Daniel San' John was so unwittingly fond of.
Yes post a frantic google search directly after making a total fool of yourself. Nice job.
Allow me to repeat, and I'll type this a little slower to help you. At no stage did I demonstrate a lack of understanding about the word 'mendacious'. What I explicitly said was "there is no such word as medacious", which was a reference to your typo.
Do you have clear evidence that I didn't know this word and had to subsequently Google it? No, that's just your fertile and quite poisonous imagination. Probably with a good deal of self-projection. Just because you don't know the big words and have to type them into your little computer doesn't mean we all do, sunshine.
"Do I have clear evidence" that you googled something?
Are you frickin serious? Or just nuts?
Just that it's obvious to anyone you had no idea, fired off some smug invective and then spent the next waste of electrons backpedalling after relating your academic superiority. More like a factory worker wearing a blue singlet maybe. But on a bike. Not class conscious or anything eh?
Idiot.
I suppose if I typed (appropriately for you) narcissism with an s missing you wouldn't recognise the word?
But of course you would. (?) Big assumption for you I guess.
It's OK to be a dumb ass 'John'. All friends here, right?
Flatus, I am no longer interested in listening to your drivel about the missing 'n' and your ability to read my mind to ascertain what words I know and don't know. I'll just leave you to your fantasies. You appear to have convinced yourself that you are innately clever and I am utterly stupid, despite evidence to the contrary.
But this comes as no surprise - I'm sure you have convinced yourself of this many times in your short but uneventful life.
"I am utterly stupid, despite evidence to the contrary"
The first part of your statement is correct, where's the evidence mentioned in the second part?
It's not on this blog.
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