Thursday, November 28, 2013

Maybe They ran out of Ink?

Andrew Bolt notes "How Fairfax hates Abbott. I mean, REALLY hates."

On the Sydney Morning Herald's letters webpage they currently feature this image of Christopher Pyne.

At least they resisted the temptation to add the little moustache.


Anonymous Ant L said...

Bolt is a whining self-pattying fascist. How else do you explane this anti-Semitic slur:

"a Jewish QC told a Jewish judge in my case something far more foul than anything I had written - that my thinking resembled that of the Nazis who drew up the Nuremberg race laws"

10:46 AM  
Anonymous Greek Fire said...

In fact Bolt has a valid point - using Nazi analogies is often a cheap debating point as it was here. It is of a kind with slurs equating Israel with the Nazis.

When Merkel compared Bolt to Nazis he demonstrated nothing more than that he is a hateful and unprincipled person. That Bromberg let him get away with it (and found accordingly)shows that he is hardly better.

Mark Dreyfus was right to say that Nazi slurs "have no place in public debate in this country. They cause grave offence to Holocaust survivors and all right-thinking Australians."

Dreyfus'comments would have carried more force if that posturing hypocrite had not recently compared Tony Abbott to Joseph Goebbels.

So there you have it:

1. Likening people to Nazis is a cheap offensive debating point of little rational value.

2. That tactic should not be used in a court of law.

3. It is even worse when it is a Jewish barrister making the analogy.

4.It is worse again when a Jewish Judge lets him get away with it.

If you think that Bolt's comments somehow make him anti-Semitic please kill yourself now. You are terminally stupid and a complete waste of space.

7:51 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

Greek Fire,

The picture appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald. My only reference to Bolt was to link to his article that Fairfax hate Abbott. Your other comments are wholly off-topic and you've really missed the point here.

Also, for what it's worth, likening people to Nazis can be valid. For example many in the Arab-Muslim world who adore Hitler and wish to continue murdering Jews. I abhor cheap attempts to use it for point scoring (think any Western leader being compared to Hitler). However I also cringe at people who don't realise that "Godwin's Law" was simply some Internet humour and therefore think ANY comparison to Nazi-behaviour is automatically invalid.

8:43 AM  
Anonymous Greek Fire said...

Dan, I know it is a bit of a stretch to fit this in with the topic of your post (which at least concerned Bolt), but Bolt only made his comment yesterday, and I think it is important.

I agree with you that the Nazi comparison can sometimes be validly used. For example Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, a spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, said:

"Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the [Jews] people who would punish them for their corruption. The last punishment was carried out by Hitler. By means of all the things he did to them - even though they exaggerated this issue - he managed to put them in their place. This was divine punishment for them. Allah willing, the next time will be at the hands of the believers."

So it is no stretch to apply the label to him and his followers. But can't we please stop applying the term to people like Andrew Bolt. It was completely unnecessary, even if you believe he was over the top with the comments that got him convicted.

I sympathise with Bolt because I also make it my business to defend Israel loudly and publicly as often as I get the chance. I have lost friends over this issue but I won't back off. I believe the world is turning against Israel, that anti-Semitism is on the rise, that there is a very real risk of another holocaust happening and that this risk is increased by the decline in Western support for Israel.

To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, I made a point of going (with my wife and two older children) to Parramatta when I heard BDS were going to demonstrate there at Max Brenner's. It was fun and we met some like-minded people there who had come out for the same reason. It is important for ordinary Australians to get involved in these things.

I don't want to be thanked for this and I don't care if I get criticised for disagreements I have with Jews on various issues (there are so many opinions and arguments to be had :-)). It is a matter of principle and even if I'm the last one standing I am not going to be in a position where there is something I could have done or said to stop another holocaust.

I suppose I could have raised this over at Geofff's Joint - where the views are remarkably similar (if not identical) to mine. I raised it here because I thought I might get some push-back and I wanted to explain my position.

Thank you for your time.

11:04 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

Greek Fire,

Perhaps I'm still missing your point, or perhaps we are both misunderstanding each other. But where did I call Bolt a Nazi or even make a suggestion? Nowhere. Exactly who are you referring to?

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Greek Fire said...

Dan I didn't mean to imply that you called Bolt a Nazi. Also, I apologise for the comment being off topic. I won't do it again.

1:33 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

No worries.

9:26 PM  

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