Sunday, July 05, 2009


Unnamed sailors formerly aboard HMAS Success are the subject of much media speculation:
A shocking scandal within Australian naval ranks has seen several personnel sent home.

It is believed male sailors on HMAS Success devised a competition based around how many female colleagues they could sleep with.

Allegedly, men in the service put dollar amounts on the heads of different women and accrued points based on how many female colleagues they slept with.
There is no indication any crime was committed, or that the "conquered" women were coerced or bullied. Outrage has flowed nonetheless:
Women's Forum Australia spokesperson Melinda Tankard-Reist says the allegations are extremely disheartening.

"When you consider that women constitute 40 per cent of the Navy, they have a right to feel safe in their place of work and not to be treated as potential notches on a sailor's belt. Obviously things have gone backwards, I thought the defence forces had moved on from this sort of pack-animal behaviour."

"This is a serious sexual incident. It requires the strongest level of disciplinary action and censure possible. I don't believe these men should be able to serve at sea anymore because they're not reliable, they can't be trusted, they don't respect women and these are not the kind of men that we need defending us."
It would be helpful if in amongst the hyperbolic bullshit we were told exactly what the male sailors did -- based on what is know so far -- that is wrong or even improper.

Update: The Seven Network News report that started the furor.

Update II: The Age site prominently displays the HMAS Success "sex scandal" story and next to it an Ask Sam! blog post about how natural it is for a man to relish chasing and conquering a woman, quickly moving on to a new chase and conquest. You know, like those HMAS Success sailors allegedly did.


Anonymous Toaf said...

You're so right, JF. This kind of stuff is neither wrong nor improper.

6:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know what you're talking about Toaf? Do you know the facts or are you just throwing some of your usual baloney. Let's wait and see what happens and then we'll await your genius Toaf. I can't wait. But I'll prepare myself by talking to some local pre school children.

7:25 PM  
Anonymous ar said...

The ADF is worried this might discourage women from joining the navy. I'd be more worried if it encouraged them...

9:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damien wishes he could be in on it.

11:31 AM  

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