Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant
Despite Israel and the Palestinian occupied territories having more journalists per square mile than any other place on Earth somehow we seldom hear about what passes for 'normal discourse' in the Palestinian society.
Palestinian Media Watch does a job that most of the Western Media don't, capturing and cataloguing the brazen calls for Jihad, Jew-killing and murder which pass for daily Palestinian television and newspaper.
Unfortunately, Youtube has decided that the material is offensive (which it certainly is) and decided to censor it to protect people from hearing terrible things. In other words, the truth about our enemy.
Palestinian Media Watch does a job that most of the Western Media don't, capturing and cataloguing the brazen calls for Jihad, Jew-killing and murder which pass for daily Palestinian television and newspaper.
Unfortunately, Youtube has decided that the material is offensive (which it certainly is) and decided to censor it to protect people from hearing terrible things. In other words, the truth about our enemy.
The video that YouTube is calling "inappropriate" exposed the Palestinian Authority Mufti citing the Islamic tradition (Hadith) that anticipates Muslims' killing Jews as a precursor to the Hour of Resurrection. The Jews are also called the "descendants of the apes and pigs" by a Fatah moderator at the event.Nice people. Let's give them a state!
posted by Dan at 5:47 AM |
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Nice people. Let's give them a state!
Are moderate religious views and the absence of any nutjobs a precursor to statehood, Danny? You should do some reading on how many modern nation-states got started, and the types of people who were involved in the process. You might be surprised at what you find.
I suspect that Youtube has censored the video of the offending mufti because it is anti-Semitic. As in clearly anti-Semitic, not 'he blogs too much about Israel'. Whether or not this type of thing should be censored, I'm sure Mossad will be taking an interest in this person and his 'views'.
Well a charter that doesn't call for another nation to be wiped out because of insane bigotry is always a good start for statehood.
Just an observation that may have eluded you.
So how's that 'family holiday' going?
'All' crowded around the computer egging each other on at a tropical resort somewhere? Mmmm?
I thought you'd be out snorkelling.
Must be bad weather.
Well a charter that doesn't call for another nation to be wiped out because of insane bigotry is always a good start for statehood.
It didn't elude me because it's a separate issue. The presence of nutters and the lack of a sensible charter or constitution are two different things, though of course one might be influenced by the other.
So how's that 'family holiday' going?
"foxy", you reveal yourself to be either semi-literate, unable to comprehend simple concepts or just plain stupid. I said yesterday that I was spending the afternoon with my family. As in yesterday... a day ago... not today. I never said I was on a "family holiday" or that I was at a "tropical resort".
To suggest that there is some equivalence to this sort of thing in Israeli (or US or any other Western) society, as the gutless left/liberals often do is disgusting to point of moral depravity. If you need to point at extremist officials or hateful clergy elsewhere you have lost the argument.
This is the official voice of the Palestinian leadership talking to their own people. Look at it. It is the ugly face of totalitarian fascism that grabs and keeps power by hate and the gun. There is nothing knew about it. Anybody who claims there is anything like this in Israel (or the US) is either an idiot or a liar. Likely both.
Also it is incessant. There is nothing new about that either. This was only a few days ago. They don't hide what they think. Why does the anti-Israel liberal/left and its dhimmified media?
Cowardice. It won't save you, you know
It is the ugly face of totalitarian fascism that grabs and keeps power by hate and the gun. There is nothing knew about it.
The only problem with that statement, geofff, is that Hamas had (or has had) pretty broad popular support from the Palestinian people. So while it might be fascism, or Islamo-fascism, it is hardly totalitarian.
Anybody who claims there is anything like this in Israel (or the US) is either an idiot or a liar.
I wasn't aware that anyone was.
That is not the only problem with that statement, John.
"Hamas had (or has had) pretty broad popular support from the Palestinian people. So while it might be fascism, or Islamo-fascism, it is hardly totalitarian."
By that definition Nazism in Germany from 1933 to probably at least 1944 was not totalitarian.
"I wasn't aware that anyone was."
With respect John, you obviously haven't been posting at Webdiary for the last eight years.
"Moral equivalence" is the standard default position of the gutless or far out left and has been for years. Since Orwell.
By that definition Nazism in Germany from 1933 to probably at least 1944 was not totalitarian.
Adolf Hitler came to power through a shady political deal between figures of the German right-wing. Unlike Hamas, he was not elected or endorsed by the German people (though the Nazis held about 30% of the Reichstag.)
Anyway, without getting into pointless comparisons, do you really think - their nonsensical 'destroy Israel' charter aside - that Hamas imposes totalitarian rule on its own people? Personally I think Hamas is corrupt, venal and effectively useless, but it is hardly totalitarian in the way it wields power.
With respect John, you obviously haven't been posting at Webdiary for the last eight years.
You're right - I haven't. Nor have I been reading it, so I don't know what goes on there.
" do you really think ...that Hamas imposes totalitarian rule on its own people? "
Yes. Not Hamas alone but with the other fascists some of which are even nastier than Hamas. That there are occasionally warring factions, such as in Nazi Germany (remember the night of the long knives?) is entirely consistent with a totalitarian regime.
The grip that these ugly fanatics have other these people is most certainly totalitarian by any definition. The "election" is irrelevant. Elections always are unless there are basic human rights such as freedom of speech, association, expression, religion, thought, choice ... Freedom from religion as well.
Spare a thought for the lives of women in these self-imposed hell holes run by dirty minded superstitious and ignorant ugly men. Not to mention the gays.
None of these rights happen under Hamas. Maybe they are not as bad as Iran but that's only because they are not about to be nuclear armed.
Of course they have "widespread support". Look at North Korea. It can be fatal under these regimes not to be a supporter and vocal about it. Even worse to be a supporter of the wrong faction. Or to be perceived or accused to be.
I think we in absolute agreement that both fundamentalist Islam and Stalinist North Korea are both run by oppressive scumbags, geoffff. Both are founded on poisonous ideas and misinformation. The only difference I guess is that Islam does have the capacity to moderate and liberalise, though while the geo-political situation there remains as it is, I suspect this is unlikely.
Just wasted my time reading the daily 'John' trolling efforts whilst slowly shaking my head.
"It didn't elude me because it's a separate issue. The presence of nutters and the lack of a sensible charter or constitution are two different things, though of course one might be influenced by the other"
It's not a seperate issue. The charter is the defining philosophy of the 'governing' organisation. And that charter inspires people to commit group violence in the name of ancient bigotry, and keep the homicidal and corrupt kleptocracy in power. Not to mention the STATE SPONSORED non stop puerile media indoctrination to achieve the same goal.
"though of course one might be influenced by the other"
Ehh? Do you ever read back your nonsensical gibberish - or is your excuse (again) that you were posting late? No there's no nuance in your statement.
"but it (Hamas) is hardly totalitarian in the way it wields power"
Hmm there's just a 'few' dissenting people brutally murdered by them - including palestinians, who might disagree. If they still could. Guess they shouldn't have disagreed with that non totalitarian ruling body. Just for their own good.
PS you did state quite clearly you were on holidays, and with the family that afternoon. Most holidays last longer than a day. Yet you chose to spend that afternoon with your alleged family typing utter sh#t. Fish oil supplements may help your memory so the rumour goes, try them as a suppository and let us know how that works for you.
The tropical bit is of course just my extrapolation eg I usually like to go somewhere nice on holidays and do something fun - instead of sit around with an imaginary family and troll blogs with idiotic arguments a child would think moronic. Sorry I need to practice thinking like a peanut to understand you better.
The sad part is you probably know your posts are illogical rubbish, but you just like the attention. Or even sadder if you do really believe your drivel.
Either way it's getting monotonous.
Still this is probably sparing the general (working) public at large from your mediocre intellect.
All the best to your World of Warcraft 'family'.
I'm not interesting in your bullsh1t, "foxy", most of which is neither correct not relevant.
Just think, you wasted time typing all that guff and I'm ignoring it.
You say my post is neither correct or relevant and in same breath say you ignored it?
This would perfectly follow your other schizoid whining, not to mention your mangling of history which is very amusing.
Don't fret over my time, it's paled by comparison with your wasted investment.
Now you know what might help you?
A JOB.
All the best, etc etc.
Now you know what might help you? A JOB.
Got one. Probably pays better than yours too. (Assuming the hourly rate for 'sandwich artists' hasn't skyrocketed lately.)
"Probably pays better than yours too"
heh heh the insecure wavering response of a little man. Self esteem problem anyone? heh heh
What a sad knob
"foxy", if you walked into this 'little man's' study and carried on with this tripe in person, you'd be limping home with two arseholes. Not that I'd have to exhaust myself, because I'm sure face-to-face you're a timid, shy little flower who daren't raise his voice to anyone.
Walk into your study, is that the one with Professor Plum and the candlestick holder? ha ha ha
shiver, fear.
There it is with that lefty violence thing again. But real world violence is different that gaming fantasy, you might be upset. Sleepy time now little Johnny. There's people to bash with your mouse tommorow.
ha ha ha
Git. At least sandwich artists provide something useful, as opposed to yourself
"if you walked into this 'little man's' study and carried on with this tripe in person, you'd be limping home with two arseholes. Not that I'd have to exhaust myself"
"I'm sure face-to-face you're a timid, shy little flower"
Yech!!!!! What a weirdo.
There it is with that lefty violence thing again.
But "foxwit", I never admitted to being a pacifist. Violence has its place in bringing about worthwhile change. Do you think American soldiers went into Afghanistan and Iraq carrying flowers and boxes of Cadbury Roses? No, they went in there to find some nasty scrotes and kick heads.
So on that basis, come down to my local and I'll give you a little leftist 're-education'. I might even buy you a raspberry-lemonade before we beat you into a delirium with 'Das Kapital', then send you home with Mao's little red book shoved up your back end.
my goodness the angry threats of an internet hero are making me tremble.
but all I've read are invitations to your study, multiple references to rectums and "shy little flowers" - which is just creepy - and "before *we* beat you into a delirium" and "shoved up your back end"
Summary; threats of gang violence (again), multiple violent anal references, and imaginary friends to help you.
You're a very weird creepy person I think. And in the end just another meat head wing nut.
Probably pissed?
Very sad.
"I might even buy you a raspberry-lemonade"
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Weirdo
Raspberry lemonade???
ha ha ha ha ha
There is an organized Youtube Jihad campaign by Islamic groups and anti Israel groups to try and shut down PMW and MEMRI by flagging it on Youtube.
Plenty of examples at <a href="http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/youtube_jihad/'>this blog</a> where people shout "raaaaacist" and try to close down Youtube videos which simply expose Jihad for what it is.
Sorry here is the above link.
Summary; threats of gang violence (again)
No gang needed; I'll do it alone.
Multiple violent anal references
Of course! Given that you are a gigantic arsehole, they're a bit difficult to avoid.
Raspberry lemonade???
I doubt "foxy" is old enough to drink beer.
ha ha ha ha
All superior and haughty until he blows a gasket, then its all violent online threats and ass violation. In your study ha ha ha
What a loser ha ha ha ha
I have to admit I haven't laughed that hard for a while so thanks :)
Ah funny funny stuff.
Cheers mate, best regards to your friends
ROTFLMAO
No dickhead, I just couldn't be stuffed putting any more effort into you than I had to. You're boring and predictable and, from what I can tell, you contribute virtually nothing to this online forum.
Don't get the multigrain mixed up with the honey oat tomorrow.
"Don't get the multigrain mixed up with the honey oat"
'John' aka...(?) the supertroll fires another withering riposte.
At least this doesn't involve threats of violent buggery in the study.
ha ha rasperry lemonade ha ha
thanks for your contribution little John. Excellent grasp of history too. In an alternate universe.
At least I have engaged with the issues. All you have done is piss and bitch like a ten-year-old girl. Which you might well be, for all I know.
after your last night's tantrum, I believe you own the title to pissing and bitching! and funny it was too. Bravo!!
after your last night's tantrum
That should be 'After last night's tantrum' or 'After your tantrum last night'.
(You write like, umm, Loewenstein.)
ah I see this is the best you can do? dubious grammar checks.
Excellent.
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